Comments on: How to prepare Annual Accounts for Company Investments https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/ Company Investing, Tax and Financial Independence Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:07:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-4644 Fri, 22 Apr 2022 07:07:12 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-4644 In reply to Kieran.

Hi Kieran, I have sent you an email.

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By: Kieran https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-4638 Wed, 20 Apr 2022 17:39:53 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-4638 Hi Michael,

I don’t suppose you have any recommendations for an accountant for investments?

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-4139 Mon, 16 Aug 2021 12:12:56 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-4139 In reply to DominicB.

Well done Dominic! Taking action is 80% of the success :)

The Vanguard LS80 acc is a tricky one as it involves both dividends and non-dividend income from bonds. Depending on the investment platform, they may or may not report what the split is. Vanguard directly, for instance, sends a statement that says ~90% of the income is dividends (franked investment income, tax-free) and 10% is non-dividend income but which has 20% tax withheld already at source. Something to consider for the future, when you will be selling your fund. You’ll need to deduct the income part from the capital gains to reduce the corporation tax, as some of it is tax-free. This mess is why I typically recommend the Income (not the Accumulation) fund flavour for LTD company investors.

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By: DominicB https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-4132 Sat, 14 Aug 2021 15:10:38 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-4132 Ah Michael, you’re a legend – after 20+ years watching money in my corporate account sit idle, I’m today drafting my accounts and seeing a four figure gain on my Vanguard LS80 Acc investment :)

Hurrah!

But, a little confused on the accounting side and would welcome your thoughts – the statement from Vanguard references ‘income’ generated – is that bond interest (and therefore subject to corp tax this year) or dividends, and therefore exempt, with corp tax due as and when I sell the investment and realise a capital gain?

Would welcome any thoughts, many thanks

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-3068 Wed, 14 Oct 2020 06:53:36 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-3068 In reply to Jonathan.

Ouch, sounds like a painful exercise but well done that you made it. I guess it’ll be easier next year, hopefully no need for XML edits!

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By: Jonathan https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-3067 Tue, 13 Oct 2020 14:06:52 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-3067 In reply to Michael.

I used fTax in the end. I’m not sure I’d particularly recommend it, but sadly there don’t seem to be many options available! It’s very clunky and I ended up having to manually edit the XML files before it sent them in order to cope with my first accounting period being longer than 12 months (as is perfectly normal for new companies!). But I managed to get it to work eventually and at least it only cost £75.

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-3063 Fri, 09 Oct 2020 17:12:38 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-3063 In reply to Chris R.

Chris, if you take a director’s loan more than £10,000 then that’s a benefit in kind and you have to pay tax on it. It must be reported on the director’s self-assessment tax return and will be liable for Class 1 National Insurance deductions and the relevant rates of personal tax.

That’s a big limitation. Also, the April 4th/6th dates you used are not correct. The personal tax year has nothing to do with the director’s loan period, it’s the corporation tax accounting period that matters (so totally depends on your company).

Spread betting is not my area of expertise.

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By: Chris R https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-3062 Fri, 09 Oct 2020 14:17:31 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-3062 Guys, as an alternative to creating a second company for investments, could you please let me know why would you not invest via your personal spread betting accounts which are tax free, compared to paying Corporate tax from the company?
There is the legal option that you could take a loan from your company as long as you return it by April 4th each year and of course you can take it back on 6th of April again as long as you return it by the next year end, fully legally. Please let me know what your thoughts are spread betting wise?
Do you know if for spread betting you need to provide information on your personal tax return as I am not sure since it is not taxable income?

Great thanks for any information from Michael, Atanas and the rest, it could help us all optimise our investments!

Cheers,
Chris

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-2670 Sun, 24 May 2020 06:59:45 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-2670 In reply to Jonathan.

I’m in the same boat Jonathan. Although I find the accountant reassuring, especially when dealing with high sums, I’d love to be able to do it on my own. HMRC’s online tool doesn’t support it yet and they want you to file using 3rd party software.

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By: Jonathan https://www.foxymonkey.com/annual-accounts-company-investments/#comment-2666 Fri, 22 May 2020 16:32:11 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=6552#comment-2666 Has anybody used an online service to file the documents for their investment company? For my trading company I use HMRC’s online tool but it doesn’t support investment companies. I’m comfortable calculating the numbers myself so I’d rather not pay hundreds of pounds to an accountant or expensive bookkeeping system!

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