Comments on: Invest Your Company Cash: Everything You Need To Know https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/ Company Investing, Tax and Financial Independence Mon, 29 Jan 2024 18:52:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.2 By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-5031 Mon, 29 Jan 2024 18:52:19 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-5031 In reply to Jai.

After 2008 global trackers performed better than global dividend funds. But if we look at the entire period 1994-2023, the dividend fund came out ahead.

The comparison takes into account the corporation tax for limited companies. I wrote a post on global tracker Vs dividend fund for limited companies here: https://www.foxymonkey.com/dividend-fund-limited-company/

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By: Jai https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-5030 Mon, 29 Jan 2024 09:51:17 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-5030 In reply to Michael.

This is super interesting. What are your thoughts on a global stock fund vs global dividend fund? Which one would be better if you have an investment period of say 5-10 years?

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4817 Fri, 03 Feb 2023 13:45:49 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4817 In reply to john.

Hi John, in my experience accountants want to do the bare minimum. A few accountants understand more complex concepts such as company investing but you need to find them and they still won’t have all the answers (brokers, bank accounts, professional contacts for buy-to-let etc.).

Happy to recommend one. I’ve sent you an email.

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By: john https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4814 Thu, 02 Feb 2023 18:55:37 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4814 Great info thanks
None of my local accountants understand matters this complex
Especially this bit, which is important

Risk of your company classified as a “Close Investment Holding Company”
Legal separation between trading and investing
Easier for tax purposes

Don’t suppose you could recommend an accountant ?

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4793 Sun, 09 Oct 2022 15:16:25 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4793 In reply to Connor.

It’s true, the rules for Entrepreneur’s relief keep changing. Even the name. It’s now called Business asset disposal relief. Who knows if it will be here a few years from now?

I have not claimed it, but I know people in the community who have done it.

Fixed deposits must be offering higher rates these days compared to last year. Not sure they’ll beat inflation, but at least you know what you’re getting :)

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By: Connor https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4792 Sun, 09 Oct 2022 14:05:30 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4792 In reply to Michael.

Thanks for the reply Michael.

Yes I suppose there is a lot of grey area for entrepreneurs relief (even if it will stay around). The thing that confuses me is the total assets for non trading operations description (I am an IT contractor so the only assets I have a cash pretty much but I would need to invest 50-70% of the spare cash to get any decent returns). Also the program might disappear in the future, do you have any experience applying for it?

I think for the moment I might just try and look at some fixed term deposits (1-2 year ones) as now it seems like a good time with interest rates going up and volatility in the stock market, but keen to here your thoughts.

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4791 Sun, 09 Oct 2022 13:32:30 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4791 In reply to Connor.

Hi Connor, trading companies can hold investments, yes. Most companies have some form of non-trading activity anyway (bank interest for instance).

But it might cause problems with your trading status if you do it in a big way. Losing Entrepreneur’s relief, business property relief and having more assets at risk of litigation. This might or might not be ok with you.

So yeah, it might be perfectly fine as long as you understand the risks and as long as it works for your company and your partners.

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By: Connor https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4790 Sun, 09 Oct 2022 02:54:29 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4790 Hi Michael

Quick question, if we don’t make another investment company and just invest the money in our existing company and the returns are still far lower than our trading revenue (i.e safe low yield investments), would that be okay?

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By: Michael https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4779 Wed, 28 Sep 2022 17:18:55 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4779 In reply to Alan.

Hi Alan, yeah Starling rejects holding companies, even for existing clients.
Other challenger banks might work.

The business banking question is one of the most frequently discussed ones in the course community. Frankly it’s a pain. Each bank has its own characteristics (SIC codes they serve, speed, what to say, FSCS protection etc). We have built some collective wisdom and you are more than welcome to join us by taking the course. It will launch again soon, including lifetime access to the community.

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By: Alan https://www.foxymonkey.com/invest-company-cash/#comment-4778 Tue, 27 Sep 2022 19:26:33 +0000 https://www.foxymonkey.com/?p=8631#comment-4778 Hi Michael,

Thanks for posting this!

Do you have any advice for info to provide while setting up a bank account for the holding company? Starling declined my application and I want to be careful before reapplying / trying someone else but feel a bit like I’m stabbing in the dark here.

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